I love the line, "But since I've gotten older, I kind of want to know what life is like minus you" can you tell me a bit about that?
That lines from anxiety, so that's being like: I have been controlled by being anxious my whole life, and now it's like going into adulthood I know how I want to present myself, and I know how I want to look and I know how I want to be in a lot of spaces. I want to actually explore that without that thing in the back of your head saying no, you shouldn't actually, you don't need to dress like everyone else you can look how you want to look.
How does the songwriting process work for you?
It's basically all at the same time. So, I come up with the lyrics and the melody at the same time. I'll play some chords, and then I'll be like, okay, this feels like a sad song, or this feels like a … song.
Usually, I have something in my notes [like a] song concept, title, something in my notes. Then if I hear chords that blend well with it I will just sit and play the same chords over and over again to figure out the lyrics and the melody at the same time. It kind of just writes all at once.
I struggle to just sing melodies and words, so I know loads of artists do that, which I think is so cool and sick, but I have just never been able to do that. I have to have the words and the melody together. So that's how I write.
But the writing process with all of the people that I wrote the songs with was really good. Everybody was so lovely, and we all got very vulnerable with the topics that we were talking about.
Everybody allowed me to lead and to showcase how I write and how conversational I like my lyrics to be. Once they understood, it was a really nice partnership because they got what it was that I was trying to do and how I like to say things, so I trust them all really to write a song with me because they get how I like to write.